Difference between revisions of "Rules talk:Focused Defense"

From AltWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
m
Line 14: Line 14:
  
 
:I have always been under the impression that FD didn't consume stamina.  Not that it's totally a big deal generally that was just my thought on it.  Also because I didn't think F/O took stamina because of its increased stamina usage already.  Also there have been instances where I've been told and seen many other people told from other staffers that you can not dodge attacks with F/D.  If that is the case then I think techniques like Zanzouken and Shunpo probably should be repriced for less then they are.  Because in that instance they become not as good as F/D is.  Either that or Focused Defense needs to become more then a simple 30 TD technique.  Although it's fine how it is, you take less damage or you block.  It's the cheapest form of DR you can get.  As long as you can see the attack you can reduce it by 1/2?  That's not even based off of your power level directly.  For 30TD's I think this ability is fine how it is. [[User:NicholasDeLeone|NicholasDeLeone]] 05:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 
:I have always been under the impression that FD didn't consume stamina.  Not that it's totally a big deal generally that was just my thought on it.  Also because I didn't think F/O took stamina because of its increased stamina usage already.  Also there have been instances where I've been told and seen many other people told from other staffers that you can not dodge attacks with F/D.  If that is the case then I think techniques like Zanzouken and Shunpo probably should be repriced for less then they are.  Because in that instance they become not as good as F/D is.  Either that or Focused Defense needs to become more then a simple 30 TD technique.  Although it's fine how it is, you take less damage or you block.  It's the cheapest form of DR you can get.  As long as you can see the attack you can reduce it by 1/2?  That's not even based off of your power level directly.  For 30TD's I think this ability is fine how it is. [[User:NicholasDeLeone|NicholasDeLeone]] 05:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 +
 +
::"It's the cheapest form of DR you can get" - It should be the ONLY form of DR you can get.  DR is a terrible idea. [[User:Tiryst|Tiryst]] 08:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 01:10, 29 August 2008

Diskushonz!

Does activating Focused Defense cost the user any stamina? The rules page does not specify, and it has been played as costing zero stamina so far, as many characters use the Focused D to improve blocking ability, which defers damage to stamina instead of durability.

And second, though this has already been ruled on by Marcus, can a person under the effects of Focused D dodge? The answer was no, but in my personal opinion, I think that's kind of dumb. A sidestep or lunge out of the way of an attack should be permissible, but it's completely up to staff.

I always thought FD consumed natural charge in stamina, as is normal for non-damage/non-direct-strength effects. I also feel that movement such as a sidestep should be allowed (mainly for fluff reasons for posters), but actual real moving around should not be. Tiryst 02:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
The standard rule in Alt has always been that in cases where an activated technique lacks a direct number to draw on for stamina costs (whether it be damage dealt or a specific number in the technique description), it always costs natural charge to activate. That would apply to Focused Defense.
As for movement, given that it is one of the specific limitations specified in the tech's logistics, I can't see all-out movement being permitted. Otherwise the technique becomes Zanzouken-and-take-less-damage. What I could see happening is allowing gross bodily movement while remaining more or less in place. Thus, shifting the torso or ducking would be permissible, allowing the evasion of smaller attacks, but if someone unleashes a massive beam of destruction, you just have to fix yourself in place and suck it up, princess.
Honestly, this CT is one of the more 'DBZish' techs we have. DBZ characters just don't dodge. (Generally, anyway.) Thus ends my opinion! And remember to sign your comments, people! Hroefn T 03:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I have always been under the impression that FD didn't consume stamina. Not that it's totally a big deal generally that was just my thought on it. Also because I didn't think F/O took stamina because of its increased stamina usage already. Also there have been instances where I've been told and seen many other people told from other staffers that you can not dodge attacks with F/D. If that is the case then I think techniques like Zanzouken and Shunpo probably should be repriced for less then they are. Because in that instance they become not as good as F/D is. Either that or Focused Defense needs to become more then a simple 30 TD technique. Although it's fine how it is, you take less damage or you block. It's the cheapest form of DR you can get. As long as you can see the attack you can reduce it by 1/2? That's not even based off of your power level directly. For 30TD's I think this ability is fine how it is. NicholasDeLeone 05:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
"It's the cheapest form of DR you can get" - It should be the ONLY form of DR you can get. DR is a terrible idea. Tiryst 08:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)